CrispyREDHOTOREDuck
Saw the whats new on Nettie and their is now a classmate feature.
To be
honest I have not gone in to the programme... BUT,,,,,,,,
is it a good
idea for Nettie when so many members are 'under age'? FRom SAfe Haven RAC etc
the safety on line tips are about limiting info that will make you an ' easy'
target.
I befrieneded someon on here who was at riskl and her school
details were on her prodile. From her photo plus profile info he could have
easilt waited outside the school gates fo her!
Nettie is a community
site and does not have to compete with FReind Reunited! Aftter recent Nettie
poll showing people were scared about paedophiles is the latest Classmate
feature going against on line safety tips and a feature not really required????
Here is a link to the discussion - which Netlog admin will probably kill within 24 hours.
http://en.netlog.com/clan/Netlog/blog/blogID=170720
After all, they would HATE for anyone to have an opinion contrary to their own.
So, in order to preserve it for future generations to see how a social networking site should NOT be administered...
storm_ryderz Trust (6 days ago at 08:04)
classmates feature stinks, its asking for trouble for the underage members, and if im right im sure i read somewhere that online sexual comments aimed at anyone under 18 is not allowed, if anyone could clarify this please do so.
CrispyREDHOTOREDuck Trust (6 days ago at 08:10)
Cheers Kat!!!!! I know where I don't get on much now I can be short and to the point and appear bolshie.... but I think Nettie could be better investing money and time into dealing with keeping their under age members safer on line rather than adding another data collection angle for paedophiles!
smileysoo Trust (5 days ago at 19:08)
I agree with you two ..altho Ive added my school n college on my bit I didnt give a thought about under 18's tbh ...but thats not because I dont care its because I have too much on my mind n in my life to a thought to others right now ....
tomek2006 Trust (5 days ago at 19:19)
I do not agree. Netlog should develop and adding classmates is one of the features that makes the website more versatile. It is just as dangerous as publishing any other data in your profile. Plus, it is not obligatory. Combined with privacy settings I think it is safe.
You forget, you inexperienced little money grubbing idiot - as much as you trumpet the "report abuse" button on every page of the site (which is an outright lie) - you can't report abuse from your own profile and reporting the sorts of comments http://en.netlog.com/gymnasticguy leaves is a convoluted, time consuming and confusing affair. Most adults, let alone kids just can't be bothered. THOSE are the ones who need safety systems put in place that actually work. Just because they're too lazy or too inexperienced to follow your stupid procedures doesn't make them any less deserving of the sorts of protection the site should be offering. Oh HEY!! Don't you imagine for one instant that a SAFER site might be MORE attractive than a site that generates the bulk of its income from sexual predation of minors?
TheWrightStuff Trust (5 days ago at 20:10)
Wow dya know what, now that ive read your blog i totally agree with your comments. At first i thought it was pretty good, but now after reading what you've put i have to agree. For tomek to turn round and not see this well, what can we say, except to say it doesn't surprise me.
The_Great_Writer Trust (5 days ago at 20:35)
mmmm difficult one. It worked on FriendsReunited as I had met my long lost friend on it. They uses the "leaving year" function where you put a date when yoiu had left the school, and you can match who has left, then they will be at the same age. I am unsure it will work on HERE because FriendsReunited has a different purpose and functions than here. However, I don't think its a good idea for classmates functions for the youngers to use, but, if Tomek said that it is not obligatory and combined with privacy settings he think it is safe. Perhaps we can give it a trail basis for 6 months. If it works....keep it, if not..bin it.
You mean, bin it if you can't find kids in your area, Wayne? Scumsucking toerag that you are.
fryboy420247 Trust (5 days ago at 03:01)
used as intended ..good .....as probally seen by those with ill intentions also good -which spells bad ,sadly tho tomek sez "no dangerous than listing anyother data concerning onesself" -bad -alot of people really have no idea that sum things ( especially those that may allow a stalker or a ped to hunt u ) are clues to ur realtime whereabouts and alot of folks have no idea how to keep urself safe on the web and finding out the hard way in this case isnt good at all.... miss storm_ryderz has published some sensible thoughts on how to keep one's self a lil safer on the web - i note that this feature violates most of that common sense ..............
CrispyREDHOTOREDuck Trust (5 days ago at 06:52)
Yes Tomek!!!! Nettie should evolve!!!!!!!!! But it should evolve on what is asked for and what people have concerns about! Was there a poll on a ClassMates feature - no. Was there a poll on online concerns - and was the highest answer paedophiles?
I would like to know the business strategy for Nettie is and what plans it has for expansion/diversification. Us who have left school may want to get back in contact and we use Friends Reunited for that. Those at school - well they know each other....... the danger is they may reveal personal information which along with name, picture etc may put them at higher risk.
Anyone can choose what info they put online. But we have constantly seen examples of young adults putting themselves at risk due to them not thinking how data can be cross matched and accumulated.
I have a good friend on here who was shocked that I was able to tell from her Nettie poprfile and some checks on 192.com to find her address and phone number. She has since modified her profile. Is it all about adding features????????
Or does Nettie have a responsibility in adding features that have inbuilt safety. As an aside can one buy Nettei shares? Cos I would love to buy a few so I have access to Nettie accounts and forward business strategy!
storm_ryderz Trust (5 days ago at 07:23)
tomek as you send a welcome message out to all new memebers now, wouldnt it be an idea to send them the stay safe advice that a few members have said i have on my profile, if you havnt seen it
ADVICE TO STAY SAFE ON ALL CHAT SITES
1 - Remove your email addy, home fone number, school/college attended from your profile page/blog, in fact any information that may give your location away, it is not just for you but your family member’s safety as well.
2 - Do not post your MSN/Yahoo/Email addy in anyone’s guestbook - you don’t know who will see this info and try to make contact with you, Absolutely anyone on site and any anonymous surfers can read this
3 - Never give this information out unless the person is totally trusted. .
4 PLEASE think first before agreeing to cam chat to anyone, you do not know who it is at the other end or if they are taking pictures of you , especially if they say you cant see them coz their webcam is broken.
5 - Do not post any unsuitable pics of yourself, if you are not sure what is acceptable for each site please read the code of conduct
6 - If any adult you do not know regularly visits your page, tries to chat to you about anything rude or indecent or asks for pictures, blacklist them, report them and tell your parents immediately, DO NOT delete any comments left or messages until admin have had a chance to check the report
7 - Change your security settings to friends only/or private, if once you accept friends and find unsuitable information on their page in g.b. comments/blogs, or clans, cancel the friendship immediately, blacklist and report them the site administrators AGAIN DO NOT DELETE until admin have checked.
8 - They may be posing as someone your own age, so be careful, people are not always as they seem. (See points 2/3)
I love you Kath, you rock.
tomek2006 Trust (5 days ago at 08:20)
What about websites devoted to classmates only? Would you like them all blocked? The way you put it must be the ultimate evil.
When you offer kids up as fodder for pedophiles, Tomek, can you think of anything worse?
I know where you are coming from but what about common sense: this message takes more or less the same space as the welcome message that is sent. Would you like to receive such a message when you log in? Another question, have you taken the readability of the message into account? How many people do you think would read this? This is not an attempt to escape from your questions. We try to introduce everything very sensibly.
No you don't. The message you send out to all new users is absolutely shite. Unmitigated commercial spin: PURE BULLSHIT. Build that advice into the welcome message for everyone under 17 years of age Tomek, you coward. We know you're trying to disguise the fact Netlog is just a hive of pedophiles with a few decent people sprinkled here and there. Your way of dealing with those decent people is to argue with them and block them for no reason except some vaguery about abuse or inappropriate behaviour - unspecified of course. Good thing you quoted fry's next message because you deleted the original shortly afterwards. Coward.
tomek2006 Trust (4 days ago at 14:59)
- fryboy420247:- used as intended ..good .....as probally seen by those with ill intentions also good -which spells bad ,sadly tho tomek sez "no dangerous than listing anyother data concerning ones self" -bad -alot of people really have no idea that sum things ( especially those that may allow a stalker or a ped to hunt u ) are clues to ur realtime whereabouts and alot of folks have no idea how to keep urself safe on the web and finding out the hard way in this case isnt good at all.... miss storm_ryderz has published some sensible thoughts on how to keep one's self a lil safer on the web - i note that this feature violates most of that common sense ..............
tomek2006
What about websites devoted to classmates only? Would you like them all blocked? The way you put it must be the ultimate evil.
fryboy420247:
i suppose u could interpret what i said that way if u was a mind too matter of fact u could interpret it many ways ,the ultimate evil will always be ,ignorance......simply not knowing ....i could paint many many scenarios amigo ,good bad beautiful beyond ur worst nightmare , one thing the classmate sites have in their favor is that most link u to no one but ur classmates -everyone else u add or they dont even see ur profile period ,that pretty much says it all no matter how u decide u want to interpert it ....there are no millions of user's scannin the profile at will ,indeed knowledge is the greatest thing ....mix with a bit of common sense ,sadly that lacks -do u think the 15 year old girl postin her pix in her underwear is using common sense when she publishes those foto's here ? but bet ur bottom dollar ignorance is indeed the ultimate evil ....
tomek2006
Here I must say that not all girls add provocative pictures and I would not reckon them to be totally innocent. They surely know what effect this causes and I believe that a lot of them does it deliberately....judging by the letters I receive at the Helpdesk.
- fryboy420247:kids flock to facebook and bebo because it is safer for them -the rippling undercurrent is that netlog is a haven for pedo's ...i didnt put this thought in kid's head,they aint blind they aint stupid ,they maybe ignorant on some things but they are still learning ... and considering who netlog supposedly aims it's self at failing toprotect them now means they wont be here when they get older -that's pretty much basic knowledge ,sum -like hollowinside leave because she was approached by dirty perverts askin for naked pix etc and netlog failed to protect her or even seriously addressed her concerns in the two blogs she wrote in this very clan( along with her reports of abuse ) those two blogs and proof that netlog doesnt protect the teenagers have now been deleted from here -hiding it doesnt make it go away...
CrispyREDHOTOREDuck Trust (yesterday at 01:21)
If it was an adult side I would say all well and good. But Nettie are constantly telling us it is aimed at teens to 21 years old. We respect that. And then a feature that puts them espIecIally at risk despicable AND AGAINsT ALL ON LINE GUIDES FOR ON SITE SAFETY!
Now, http://en.netlog.com/harrylarssonsweden has hit the alarm button and stuck his tongue WAY down the pants of the admins at Netlog in a bid to clear his extremely tarnished name - and has claimed I have been trying to "wreck his life".
All I did was point out in a non-public clan of which he remains a member with his clueless girlfriend that he has 1200 friends in his myspace profile all of whom are between 18 and 25 years of age. Apparently, that was enough for him to be "forced" to make his MySpace private.
That's only the tip of the iceberg of what we know about http://en.netlog.com/harrylarssonsweden
It's the relationship between Harry and Netlog Admin that has us intrigued, frankly.
One of the nicest blokes you could hope to meet has had his account at Netlog blocked for "inappropriate behaviour" "abusive behaviour" and "offensive behaviour" yet not one of those worthless maggots at admin has been able to shed any light on just what messages are deemed to be abusive, inappropriate or offensive.
The answer to that question is: They're pointing the accusatory finger at http://en.netlog.com/harrylarssonsweden
Your Netlog account has been blocked.
Hello j. (scribble,scribble),
Your Netlog account has been blocked by a Netlog moderator.
The moderator gave this reason:
inappropriate behaviour
His answer to admin...
bluntly i was blocked , though the only warnings i had was one long ago (concerning foto's) and a very vague non-descript one the other day( stating that i , had offended someone,not knowing the offense -and not being informed of it -other than the fact that if was some kind of offense ( personal in nature i am assured though of what i have no clue ) my profile wasnt abusive nor was it attacking
people unless they had attacked me first and generally speakin my profile was well liked by the masses,so now please list the offenses of why i was blocked etc and i dont mean by a generic canned reply that only states that offending people is against netlogs code of conduct ,and scince i am blocked please send the reply to my mail address that is on file as it it apparent that i will not be loggi
logging in to my netlog account ,ermm sorry -ex netlog account
sincerly , j. ( fryboy420247)
yesterday at 13:51 ania_jod Hi,
Your account has been blocked because we received several reports on your abusive behaviour on Netlog.
the first was offensive then inappropriate
now abusive
well thanx for the generic and very vague answer that i explicitly asked not to receive considering that i am usually polite to people when they are ( and anyone on my long friend list can verify this ) and that i dont resort to name calling etc and that most people found my profile refreshing in such a veritude of fakes i still have no choice but to wonder what these "alleged abuses" are and
well thanx for the generic and very vague answer that i explicitly asked not to receive considering that i am usually polite to people when they are ( and anyone on my long friend list can verify this ) and that i dont resort to name calling etc and that most people found my profile refreshing in such a veritude of fakes i still have no choice but to wonder what these "alleged abuses" are and if the reports came from the same person or two with nothing but vengeance for some slight or imagined offense ? i recieved one warning that being offensive was against the "coc" but no mention as to how i was being "offensive" or even what the offense was ,sadly also with no idea how to even identify that offense and take the steps to correct it ,so may i please be informed of what that
offense was so that in the future if i chose to come back to netlog ( and netlog lets me ) that i may not be found offensive with out a reason ? because yes i believe that this was indeed a mistake .
ania_jod has sent me : Your account has been reactivated. Please re-
yesterday at 14:49 ania_jod Hi,
Your account has been reactivated. Please re-review the code of conduct to prevent your account from being blocked again in the future.
Notice they have not told him what the offending messages were or where they were posted. I surmise they've got it in for Fry purely on the basis that he's a friend of mine and because I have expressed my distrust and distaste for http://en.netlog.com/harrylarssonsweden and he's sucked up to admin like a nuclear powered hoover, they love him and will protect him.
The fucking sinister maggot has fashioned his Netlog profile to make it look like he's an employee of Netlog, quoting the terms and conditions etc. etc. etc.
Even http://en.netlog.com/tomek2006 had to warn him to clean up his Netlog profile because it was all 13 and 14 year old girls.
The message posted by http://en.netlog.com/tomek2006 in the Pervert Alert clan has mysteriously disappeared.
Netlog is a shithole.
It is dangerous for kids and now that Admin are taking active steps to stop people like me from bringing the truth to light, I have started taking my own to make sure as many people as possible learn the dirty truth about that site.
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tho the comment may be deleted i will touch on it in a few....i did not point out that harry was this or that i only stated that his friends list was as it was -at that time there were between 50-75 scantily and sexily clad 13-15 year old girls on his friends list -note that i said girls for that was not a single adult in it at the time and yes tomek did say that it didnt look good and that netlog mod's ( even lowly video mods such as harry ) should be role models -umm i dont think i want anyone modeling their life fater harry after the drama continues btw . that comment is not lost !! it is posted in several places and quoted by other's in netlog only my profile is closed to me at the moment :( more later as this is a very busy time for me sorry to say .....
It just stuns me that after all the support you've offered admin, after all the helpful and friendly advice you've given them, that they turn around and do this just on the strength of what that fat turd from Sweden said.
Admin has sunk lower than whale shit.
Aww, banning IP's, lol.
You and Plague should start a disgruntled chatters club.
No we shouldn't. What a fucked up thing to say.
Name one person who ever ran to Plunk for help. Just one.
On second thought, don't. Just rub your crystal bollocks and make all the bad thoughts disappear. Om.
the saddest part ? tomek used my words of "common sense " whilst he knows not what they mean ( nor common sense but i digress..)in the 18 months that i was on netlog not once had he ever used those words in public where they could be seen until he quoted me and as u can see that his very next comment was used with my words -tomek wouldnt know common sense if it bit him in his pedophile protecting azz.....btw that quote from him about harry ? "[quote=tomek2006]i agree.i also accept everybody who ask for friendship here(apart from spammers,would you believe that they ask me too?:P ), however the friends list of this person is definately suspicious. i would like you to know that i have warned him and asked for a explanation.mods on netlogshould be positive role models.[/quote} " ermm ok so that show's t that tomek warned him ...erm warned him why ? or should i say what was tis warning ? and why would there need to be one ?yes tomek knows alright and scince then suddenly all of harry's public accounts have gone private -for someone who loves to tout that he is a mod at netlog this surely must bite as he now had to lose all those 50-75 young 13-15 year old scantily clad female "friends" i would believe that were there any other's on that list -sadly there was not that is why tomek said it looks suspicious umm no it didnt look -it was and you tomek encouraged him to hide it that makes you just as if not more guilty ..... this is why i was blocked not all the run around that ur helpless desk has given me ,and yes thier letter's to me are the proof -bet u wish u hadnt of sent them now -can not list one offense tho i have asked numerous times -even paul was told his but not i ....umm ok as i see it and i have asked many prominet profiles on netlog who all say the same thing -that my profile wasnt abusive nor was it offensive -as i quote many i will not name them for surely they would be punished just like me but they said that my profile was one of the most honest and real and polite that they had seen -or was that my offense ? that i didnt cuss nor gawk at porn pix that young girls posted etc ? that i didnt perv on them if my guest book had been open to all -besides the last three pages there was many comments from girls who said that they were amazed that (unlike the people that netlog prefer's on netlog ) i didnt treat them as a piece of meat and that i was always polite and a gentle man ,ask folks yourself about me no one had anything bad to say about me and that dear reader is why i was blocked ,netlog couldt and wouldnt list any of my offenses tho i asked several times ,they couldnt because they were fake !! i stated my mind and my opinions in many places on netlog and i always spoke the truth -that is why people found my profile refreshing -not because i was abusive or offensive -the only person offended was harry -i never called him a pedo -i didnt have to -the proof did that and that netlog's own english manager ( who isnt english btw <_< )helped hide the proof -proof that i have screencapped btw -just ask and it can be your's to view .....
well, this flavor of bullshit is pretty much the reason i quit goin' to netlog.......
some day, the feds, flicks, bobbies, what-the-fuck-ever they call em, around the world, will sniffin' I.P.'s of every non-teen that goes there.........
'preciate ya sharin' this w/me, mi hermano!!
To the idiot who felt it necessary to comment; the difference here is Plonk was pissed off because his dreary messages were deleted from an msn group.
These people are ALL up in arms over the fact that this social networking website targeted at 14 - 24 year olds does nothing to protect kids using its site and indeed, trumpets its achievement in making the site even LESS SAFE for those very same kids.
We list HUNDREDS of profiles of animals making propositions to kids for sex on webcam and admin does NOTHING about it. Our list has close to 700 names on it of these such people.
We're pissed off at admin's bullshit not on our own accounts, but because they refuse to act on this pervasive issue of protecting kids on their website.
Now, you might think "so what" or "who cares", that's fine. You enjoy your mundane and pointless chats if that's your thing. But don't come around here and expect to be respected for bitching about those of us who care about whether or not kids are subjected to that kind of shit.
So come up with something valuable, shut the fuck up or expect more deletions.
"These people are ALL up in arms over the fact that this social networking website targeted at 14 - 24 year olds"
Why are you crying about being banned from it, if you're in your 40's?
When you are able to be honest enough to put it into context -
These people are ALL up in arms over the fact that this social networking website targeted at 14 - 24 year olds does nothing to protect kids using its site -
THERE is your reason all these people are up in arms.
You didn't answer the question.
What were you doing on a forum targeted at 14-24's?
Because I already have. You think you're a smart person, see if you can find it.
Besides, I've covered my reason for being there elsewhere in this blog. Go find it yourself.
Better yet, gtfo.
No, it's comments from useless self-congratulatory toadies that get deleted because they're so far from reality they're not even worth considering.
You're the sort who whines about everything yet makes absolutely no effort to improve anything. It's all just too much effort for social cancers like you. You'd rather bring down those who do at least make an effort to make things better.
Well done.
As for the success or otherwise of my efforts, have you looked at Australian news websites lately?
;)
What have you achieved in the last 10 years? Validity at Liars' HQ?
10,000 posts in a Liars Only forum?
Yay for you. Have a cookie.
Can't believe some knob is actually attempting to argue with you about this.
Netlog is as you said in one of your blogs "a hive of pedos with a few decent people scattered her and there.
IF someones going to argue about why your on netlog, then they should go take some time off and go and ask the other millions of 40+ members who are there with completely different motives why they are there.
Andrew.
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