http://www.elmundo.es/elmundo/2008/06/04/espana/1212593793.html
This is an obscure little blog on an obscure website. My friends read this blog to keep up with stuff I put in it.
Comments I deleted from a previous post included the question "why wasn't my name mentioned in any news reports?"
I would answer but the person who asked the question is not interested in finding out the truth, let alone finding out what I actually do as far as hunting perverts goes.
Well, it goes like this:
Someone sends me a message - could be a kid or an adult friend or contact.
I find out what I can from wherever I can about the person named in the message. If they're an Australian, I email the Australian Federal Police with all the info I have.
I am one of hundreds who do this.
I am also a part of a group of a few dozen who emails various police forces around the world with this sort of information. Sometimes we get that information by pretending to be kids, sometimes we get that information from trolling messageboards. Most of the information I get is a name or one link from which I then try to find more information. Sometimes people from different groups all look for info from their various sources to build a better profile of a predator.
When we get enough info on a specific person, it all gets sent off to police.
The police then do their own investigations and follow up their own leads - and the result is what has hit the news in more places than just Australia.
It just so happens that we get to know if someone we report gets busted. It just happens that way. So, that's how come I know that people I report get busted and that people my friends report get busted. None of us is ever credited by newspapers with being the source of the original information.
And yes, I know authorities would prefer it if I hid my identity. Authorities have, in the past, also instructed me not to communicate with certain news outlets because they WILL publish my identity and thereby compromise my safety far moreso than this obscure little blog ever would.
What shits me though, is people putting me down for what I do when they will not even contemplate doing anything remotely like it themselves. They sit there and point the finger at me and accuse me of all sorts of shit - but they're too cowardly to do anything about it. They don't like me because I'm an ill-tempered, bad mannered, foul mouthed, egotistical swat - and frankly I don't blame anyone for hating my guts.
But how stupid are they to come here and question my motives, my actions, the time I spend doing what I do - commenting about stuff of which they can have no real clue (until now) as if they knew more about the machinations of hunting creeps and how I do it than do the people who actually do these things with me - then come to their wildly inaccurate conclusions based on 90% of information THEY NEVER HAD and 10% of the total of information which they've chosen to interpret in a way that best suits them? Seriously, how stupid can they be?
Either come and hunt predators with the rest of us or fuck off back into your own pathetic and pointless little world of recipes, movie reviews, clots and gossip.
Sunday, June 08, 2008
Tuesday, June 03, 2008
One for the dickhead whose comments I deleted.
This person will probably get told off by admin for posting this - as you'll see further down in this message, expressing a negative opinion about anything to do with Netlog or its Admin will get you blocked now.
Here is a link to the discussion - which Netlog admin will probably kill within 24 hours.
http://en.netlog.com/clan/Netlog/blog/blogID=170720
After all, they would HATE for anyone to have an opinion contrary to their own.
So, in order to preserve it for future generations to see how a social networking site should NOT be administered...
storm_ryderz Trust (6 days ago at 08:04)
classmates feature stinks, its asking for trouble for the underage members, and if im right im sure i read somewhere that online sexual comments aimed at anyone under 18 is not allowed, if anyone could clarify this please do so.
CrispyREDHOTOREDuck Trust (6 days ago at 08:10)
Cheers Kat!!!!! I know where I don't get on much now I can be short and to the point and appear bolshie.... but I think Nettie could be better investing money and time into dealing with keeping their under age members safer on line rather than adding another data collection angle for paedophiles!
smileysoo Trust (5 days ago at 19:08)
I agree with you two ..altho Ive added my school n college on my bit I didnt give a thought about under 18's tbh ...but thats not because I dont care its because I have too much on my mind n in my life to a thought to others right now ....
tomek2006 Trust (5 days ago at 19:19)
I do not agree. Netlog should develop and adding classmates is one of the features that makes the website more versatile. It is just as dangerous as publishing any other data in your profile. Plus, it is not obligatory. Combined with privacy settings I think it is safe.
You forget, you inexperienced little money grubbing idiot - as much as you trumpet the "report abuse" button on every page of the site (which is an outright lie) - you can't report abuse from your own profile and reporting the sorts of comments http://en.netlog.com/gymnasticguy leaves is a convoluted, time consuming and confusing affair. Most adults, let alone kids just can't be bothered. THOSE are the ones who need safety systems put in place that actually work. Just because they're too lazy or too inexperienced to follow your stupid procedures doesn't make them any less deserving of the sorts of protection the site should be offering. Oh HEY!! Don't you imagine for one instant that a SAFER site might be MORE attractive than a site that generates the bulk of its income from sexual predation of minors?
TheWrightStuff Trust (5 days ago at 20:10)
Wow dya know what, now that ive read your blog i totally agree with your comments. At first i thought it was pretty good, but now after reading what you've put i have to agree. For tomek to turn round and not see this well, what can we say, except to say it doesn't surprise me.
The_Great_Writer Trust (5 days ago at 20:35)
mmmm difficult one. It worked on FriendsReunited as I had met my long lost friend on it. They uses the "leaving year" function where you put a date when yoiu had left the school, and you can match who has left, then they will be at the same age. I am unsure it will work on HERE because FriendsReunited has a different purpose and functions than here. However, I don't think its a good idea for classmates functions for the youngers to use, but, if Tomek said that it is not obligatory and combined with privacy settings he think it is safe. Perhaps we can give it a trail basis for 6 months. If it works....keep it, if not..bin it.
You mean, bin it if you can't find kids in your area, Wayne? Scumsucking toerag that you are.
fryboy420247 Trust (5 days ago at 03:01)
used as intended ..good .....as probally seen by those with ill intentions also good -which spells bad ,sadly tho tomek sez "no dangerous than listing anyother data concerning onesself" -bad -alot of people really have no idea that sum things ( especially those that may allow a stalker or a ped to hunt u ) are clues to ur realtime whereabouts and alot of folks have no idea how to keep urself safe on the web and finding out the hard way in this case isnt good at all.... miss storm_ryderz has published some sensible thoughts on how to keep one's self a lil safer on the web - i note that this feature violates most of that common sense ..............
CrispyREDHOTOREDuck Trust (5 days ago at 06:52)
Yes Tomek!!!! Nettie should evolve!!!!!!!!! But it should evolve on what is asked for and what people have concerns about! Was there a poll on a ClassMates feature - no. Was there a poll on online concerns - and was the highest answer paedophiles?
I would like to know the business strategy for Nettie is and what plans it has for expansion/diversification. Us who have left school may want to get back in contact and we use Friends Reunited for that. Those at school - well they know each other....... the danger is they may reveal personal information which along with name, picture etc may put them at higher risk.
Anyone can choose what info they put online. But we have constantly seen examples of young adults putting themselves at risk due to them not thinking how data can be cross matched and accumulated.
I have a good friend on here who was shocked that I was able to tell from her Nettie poprfile and some checks on 192.com to find her address and phone number. She has since modified her profile. Is it all about adding features????????
Or does Nettie have a responsibility in adding features that have inbuilt safety. As an aside can one buy Nettei shares? Cos I would love to buy a few so I have access to Nettie accounts and forward business strategy!
storm_ryderz Trust (5 days ago at 07:23)
tomek as you send a welcome message out to all new memebers now, wouldnt it be an idea to send them the stay safe advice that a few members have said i have on my profile, if you havnt seen it
ADVICE TO STAY SAFE ON ALL CHAT SITES
1 - Remove your email addy, home fone number, school/college attended from your profile page/blog, in fact any information that may give your location away, it is not just for you but your family member’s safety as well.
2 - Do not post your MSN/Yahoo/Email addy in anyone’s guestbook - you don’t know who will see this info and try to make contact with you, Absolutely anyone on site and any anonymous surfers can read this
3 - Never give this information out unless the person is totally trusted. .
4 PLEASE think first before agreeing to cam chat to anyone, you do not know who it is at the other end or if they are taking pictures of you , especially if they say you cant see them coz their webcam is broken.
5 - Do not post any unsuitable pics of yourself, if you are not sure what is acceptable for each site please read the code of conduct
6 - If any adult you do not know regularly visits your page, tries to chat to you about anything rude or indecent or asks for pictures, blacklist them, report them and tell your parents immediately, DO NOT delete any comments left or messages until admin have had a chance to check the report
7 - Change your security settings to friends only/or private, if once you accept friends and find unsuitable information on their page in g.b. comments/blogs, or clans, cancel the friendship immediately, blacklist and report them the site administrators AGAIN DO NOT DELETE until admin have checked.
8 - They may be posing as someone your own age, so be careful, people are not always as they seem. (See points 2/3)
I love you Kath, you rock.
tomek2006 Trust (5 days ago at 08:20)
What about websites devoted to classmates only? Would you like them all blocked? The way you put it must be the ultimate evil.
When you offer kids up as fodder for pedophiles, Tomek, can you think of anything worse?
I know where you are coming from but what about common sense: this message takes more or less the same space as the welcome message that is sent. Would you like to receive such a message when you log in? Another question, have you taken the readability of the message into account? How many people do you think would read this? This is not an attempt to escape from your questions. We try to introduce everything very sensibly.
No you don't. The message you send out to all new users is absolutely shite. Unmitigated commercial spin: PURE BULLSHIT. Build that advice into the welcome message for everyone under 17 years of age Tomek, you coward. We know you're trying to disguise the fact Netlog is just a hive of pedophiles with a few decent people sprinkled here and there. Your way of dealing with those decent people is to argue with them and block them for no reason except some vaguery about abuse or inappropriate behaviour - unspecified of course. Good thing you quoted fry's next message because you deleted the original shortly afterwards. Coward.
Now, http://en.netlog.com/harrylarssonsweden has hit the alarm button and stuck his tongue WAY down the pants of the admins at Netlog in a bid to clear his extremely tarnished name - and has claimed I have been trying to "wreck his life".
All I did was point out in a non-public clan of which he remains a member with his clueless girlfriend that he has 1200 friends in his myspace profile all of whom are between 18 and 25 years of age. Apparently, that was enough for him to be "forced" to make his MySpace private.
That's only the tip of the iceberg of what we know about http://en.netlog.com/harrylarssonsweden
It's the relationship between Harry and Netlog Admin that has us intrigued, frankly.
One of the nicest blokes you could hope to meet has had his account at Netlog blocked for "inappropriate behaviour" "abusive behaviour" and "offensive behaviour" yet not one of those worthless maggots at admin has been able to shed any light on just what messages are deemed to be abusive, inappropriate or offensive.
The answer to that question is: They're pointing the accusatory finger at http://en.netlog.com/harrylarssonsweden
Your Netlog account has been blocked.
Hello j. (scribble,scribble),
Your Netlog account has been blocked by a Netlog moderator.
The moderator gave this reason:
inappropriate behaviour
His answer to admin...
bluntly i was blocked , though the only warnings i had was one long ago (concerning foto's) and a very vague non-descript one the other day( stating that i , had offended someone,not knowing the offense -and not being informed of it -other than the fact that if was some kind of offense ( personal in nature i am assured though of what i have no clue ) my profile wasnt abusive nor was it attacking
people unless they had attacked me first and generally speakin my profile was well liked by the masses,so now please list the offenses of why i was blocked etc and i dont mean by a generic canned reply that only states that offending people is against netlogs code of conduct ,and scince i am blocked please send the reply to my mail address that is on file as it it apparent that i will not be loggi
logging in to my netlog account ,ermm sorry -ex netlog account
sincerly , j. ( fryboy420247)
yesterday at 13:51 ania_jod Hi,
Your account has been blocked because we received several reports on your abusive behaviour on Netlog.
the first was offensive then inappropriate
now abusive
well thanx for the generic and very vague answer that i explicitly asked not to receive considering that i am usually polite to people when they are ( and anyone on my long friend list can verify this ) and that i dont resort to name calling etc and that most people found my profile refreshing in such a veritude of fakes i still have no choice but to wonder what these "alleged abuses" are and
well thanx for the generic and very vague answer that i explicitly asked not to receive considering that i am usually polite to people when they are ( and anyone on my long friend list can verify this ) and that i dont resort to name calling etc and that most people found my profile refreshing in such a veritude of fakes i still have no choice but to wonder what these "alleged abuses" are and if the reports came from the same person or two with nothing but vengeance for some slight or imagined offense ? i recieved one warning that being offensive was against the "coc" but no mention as to how i was being "offensive" or even what the offense was ,sadly also with no idea how to even identify that offense and take the steps to correct it ,so may i please be informed of what that
offense was so that in the future if i chose to come back to netlog ( and netlog lets me ) that i may not be found offensive with out a reason ? because yes i believe that this was indeed a mistake .
ania_jod has sent me : Your account has been reactivated. Please re-
yesterday at 14:49 ania_jod Hi,
Your account has been reactivated. Please re-review the code of conduct to prevent your account from being blocked again in the future.
Notice they have not told him what the offending messages were or where they were posted. I surmise they've got it in for Fry purely on the basis that he's a friend of mine and because I have expressed my distrust and distaste for http://en.netlog.com/harrylarssonsweden and he's sucked up to admin like a nuclear powered hoover, they love him and will protect him.
The fucking sinister maggot has fashioned his Netlog profile to make it look like he's an employee of Netlog, quoting the terms and conditions etc. etc. etc.
Even http://en.netlog.com/tomek2006 had to warn him to clean up his Netlog profile because it was all 13 and 14 year old girls.
The message posted by http://en.netlog.com/tomek2006 in the Pervert Alert clan has mysteriously disappeared.
Netlog is a shithole.
It is dangerous for kids and now that Admin are taking active steps to stop people like me from bringing the truth to light, I have started taking my own to make sure as many people as possible learn the dirty truth about that site.
CrispyREDHOTOREDuck
Saw the whats new on Nettie and their is now a classmate feature.
To be
honest I have not gone in to the programme... BUT,,,,,,,,
is it a good
idea for Nettie when so many members are 'under age'? FRom SAfe Haven RAC etc
the safety on line tips are about limiting info that will make you an ' easy'
target.
I befrieneded someon on here who was at riskl and her school
details were on her prodile. From her photo plus profile info he could have
easilt waited outside the school gates fo her!
Nettie is a community
site and does not have to compete with FReind Reunited! Aftter recent Nettie
poll showing people were scared about paedophiles is the latest Classmate
feature going against on line safety tips and a feature not really required????
Here is a link to the discussion - which Netlog admin will probably kill within 24 hours.
http://en.netlog.com/clan/Netlog/blog/blogID=170720
After all, they would HATE for anyone to have an opinion contrary to their own.
So, in order to preserve it for future generations to see how a social networking site should NOT be administered...
storm_ryderz Trust (6 days ago at 08:04)
classmates feature stinks, its asking for trouble for the underage members, and if im right im sure i read somewhere that online sexual comments aimed at anyone under 18 is not allowed, if anyone could clarify this please do so.
CrispyREDHOTOREDuck Trust (6 days ago at 08:10)
Cheers Kat!!!!! I know where I don't get on much now I can be short and to the point and appear bolshie.... but I think Nettie could be better investing money and time into dealing with keeping their under age members safer on line rather than adding another data collection angle for paedophiles!
smileysoo Trust (5 days ago at 19:08)
I agree with you two ..altho Ive added my school n college on my bit I didnt give a thought about under 18's tbh ...but thats not because I dont care its because I have too much on my mind n in my life to a thought to others right now ....
tomek2006 Trust (5 days ago at 19:19)
I do not agree. Netlog should develop and adding classmates is one of the features that makes the website more versatile. It is just as dangerous as publishing any other data in your profile. Plus, it is not obligatory. Combined with privacy settings I think it is safe.
You forget, you inexperienced little money grubbing idiot - as much as you trumpet the "report abuse" button on every page of the site (which is an outright lie) - you can't report abuse from your own profile and reporting the sorts of comments http://en.netlog.com/gymnasticguy leaves is a convoluted, time consuming and confusing affair. Most adults, let alone kids just can't be bothered. THOSE are the ones who need safety systems put in place that actually work. Just because they're too lazy or too inexperienced to follow your stupid procedures doesn't make them any less deserving of the sorts of protection the site should be offering. Oh HEY!! Don't you imagine for one instant that a SAFER site might be MORE attractive than a site that generates the bulk of its income from sexual predation of minors?
TheWrightStuff Trust (5 days ago at 20:10)
Wow dya know what, now that ive read your blog i totally agree with your comments. At first i thought it was pretty good, but now after reading what you've put i have to agree. For tomek to turn round and not see this well, what can we say, except to say it doesn't surprise me.
The_Great_Writer Trust (5 days ago at 20:35)
mmmm difficult one. It worked on FriendsReunited as I had met my long lost friend on it. They uses the "leaving year" function where you put a date when yoiu had left the school, and you can match who has left, then they will be at the same age. I am unsure it will work on HERE because FriendsReunited has a different purpose and functions than here. However, I don't think its a good idea for classmates functions for the youngers to use, but, if Tomek said that it is not obligatory and combined with privacy settings he think it is safe. Perhaps we can give it a trail basis for 6 months. If it works....keep it, if not..bin it.
You mean, bin it if you can't find kids in your area, Wayne? Scumsucking toerag that you are.
fryboy420247 Trust (5 days ago at 03:01)
used as intended ..good .....as probally seen by those with ill intentions also good -which spells bad ,sadly tho tomek sez "no dangerous than listing anyother data concerning onesself" -bad -alot of people really have no idea that sum things ( especially those that may allow a stalker or a ped to hunt u ) are clues to ur realtime whereabouts and alot of folks have no idea how to keep urself safe on the web and finding out the hard way in this case isnt good at all.... miss storm_ryderz has published some sensible thoughts on how to keep one's self a lil safer on the web - i note that this feature violates most of that common sense ..............
CrispyREDHOTOREDuck Trust (5 days ago at 06:52)
Yes Tomek!!!! Nettie should evolve!!!!!!!!! But it should evolve on what is asked for and what people have concerns about! Was there a poll on a ClassMates feature - no. Was there a poll on online concerns - and was the highest answer paedophiles?
I would like to know the business strategy for Nettie is and what plans it has for expansion/diversification. Us who have left school may want to get back in contact and we use Friends Reunited for that. Those at school - well they know each other....... the danger is they may reveal personal information which along with name, picture etc may put them at higher risk.
Anyone can choose what info they put online. But we have constantly seen examples of young adults putting themselves at risk due to them not thinking how data can be cross matched and accumulated.
I have a good friend on here who was shocked that I was able to tell from her Nettie poprfile and some checks on 192.com to find her address and phone number. She has since modified her profile. Is it all about adding features????????
Or does Nettie have a responsibility in adding features that have inbuilt safety. As an aside can one buy Nettei shares? Cos I would love to buy a few so I have access to Nettie accounts and forward business strategy!
storm_ryderz Trust (5 days ago at 07:23)
tomek as you send a welcome message out to all new memebers now, wouldnt it be an idea to send them the stay safe advice that a few members have said i have on my profile, if you havnt seen it
ADVICE TO STAY SAFE ON ALL CHAT SITES
1 - Remove your email addy, home fone number, school/college attended from your profile page/blog, in fact any information that may give your location away, it is not just for you but your family member’s safety as well.
2 - Do not post your MSN/Yahoo/Email addy in anyone’s guestbook - you don’t know who will see this info and try to make contact with you, Absolutely anyone on site and any anonymous surfers can read this
3 - Never give this information out unless the person is totally trusted. .
4 PLEASE think first before agreeing to cam chat to anyone, you do not know who it is at the other end or if they are taking pictures of you , especially if they say you cant see them coz their webcam is broken.
5 - Do not post any unsuitable pics of yourself, if you are not sure what is acceptable for each site please read the code of conduct
6 - If any adult you do not know regularly visits your page, tries to chat to you about anything rude or indecent or asks for pictures, blacklist them, report them and tell your parents immediately, DO NOT delete any comments left or messages until admin have had a chance to check the report
7 - Change your security settings to friends only/or private, if once you accept friends and find unsuitable information on their page in g.b. comments/blogs, or clans, cancel the friendship immediately, blacklist and report them the site administrators AGAIN DO NOT DELETE until admin have checked.
8 - They may be posing as someone your own age, so be careful, people are not always as they seem. (See points 2/3)
I love you Kath, you rock.
tomek2006 Trust (5 days ago at 08:20)
What about websites devoted to classmates only? Would you like them all blocked? The way you put it must be the ultimate evil.
When you offer kids up as fodder for pedophiles, Tomek, can you think of anything worse?
I know where you are coming from but what about common sense: this message takes more or less the same space as the welcome message that is sent. Would you like to receive such a message when you log in? Another question, have you taken the readability of the message into account? How many people do you think would read this? This is not an attempt to escape from your questions. We try to introduce everything very sensibly.
No you don't. The message you send out to all new users is absolutely shite. Unmitigated commercial spin: PURE BULLSHIT. Build that advice into the welcome message for everyone under 17 years of age Tomek, you coward. We know you're trying to disguise the fact Netlog is just a hive of pedophiles with a few decent people sprinkled here and there. Your way of dealing with those decent people is to argue with them and block them for no reason except some vaguery about abuse or inappropriate behaviour - unspecified of course. Good thing you quoted fry's next message because you deleted the original shortly afterwards. Coward.
tomek2006 Trust (4 days ago at 14:59)
- fryboy420247:- used as intended ..good .....as probally seen by those with ill intentions also good -which spells bad ,sadly tho tomek sez "no dangerous than listing anyother data concerning ones self" -bad -alot of people really have no idea that sum things ( especially those that may allow a stalker or a ped to hunt u ) are clues to ur realtime whereabouts and alot of folks have no idea how to keep urself safe on the web and finding out the hard way in this case isnt good at all.... miss storm_ryderz has published some sensible thoughts on how to keep one's self a lil safer on the web - i note that this feature violates most of that common sense ..............
tomek2006
What about websites devoted to classmates only? Would you like them all blocked? The way you put it must be the ultimate evil.
fryboy420247:
i suppose u could interpret what i said that way if u was a mind too matter of fact u could interpret it many ways ,the ultimate evil will always be ,ignorance......simply not knowing ....i could paint many many scenarios amigo ,good bad beautiful beyond ur worst nightmare , one thing the classmate sites have in their favor is that most link u to no one but ur classmates -everyone else u add or they dont even see ur profile period ,that pretty much says it all no matter how u decide u want to interpert it ....there are no millions of user's scannin the profile at will ,indeed knowledge is the greatest thing ....mix with a bit of common sense ,sadly that lacks -do u think the 15 year old girl postin her pix in her underwear is using common sense when she publishes those foto's here ? but bet ur bottom dollar ignorance is indeed the ultimate evil ....
tomek2006
Here I must say that not all girls add provocative pictures and I would not reckon them to be totally innocent. They surely know what effect this causes and I believe that a lot of them does it deliberately....judging by the letters I receive at the Helpdesk.
- fryboy420247:kids flock to facebook and bebo because it is safer for them -the rippling undercurrent is that netlog is a haven for pedo's ...i didnt put this thought in kid's head,they aint blind they aint stupid ,they maybe ignorant on some things but they are still learning ... and considering who netlog supposedly aims it's self at failing toprotect them now means they wont be here when they get older -that's pretty much basic knowledge ,sum -like hollowinside leave because she was approached by dirty perverts askin for naked pix etc and netlog failed to protect her or even seriously addressed her concerns in the two blogs she wrote in this very clan( along with her reports of abuse ) those two blogs and proof that netlog doesnt protect the teenagers have now been deleted from here -hiding it doesnt make it go away...
CrispyREDHOTOREDuck Trust (yesterday at 01:21)
If it was an adult side I would say all well and good. But Nettie are constantly telling us it is aimed at teens to 21 years old. We respect that. And then a feature that puts them espIecIally at risk despicable AND AGAINsT ALL ON LINE GUIDES FOR ON SITE SAFETY!
Now, http://en.netlog.com/harrylarssonsweden has hit the alarm button and stuck his tongue WAY down the pants of the admins at Netlog in a bid to clear his extremely tarnished name - and has claimed I have been trying to "wreck his life".
All I did was point out in a non-public clan of which he remains a member with his clueless girlfriend that he has 1200 friends in his myspace profile all of whom are between 18 and 25 years of age. Apparently, that was enough for him to be "forced" to make his MySpace private.
That's only the tip of the iceberg of what we know about http://en.netlog.com/harrylarssonsweden
It's the relationship between Harry and Netlog Admin that has us intrigued, frankly.
One of the nicest blokes you could hope to meet has had his account at Netlog blocked for "inappropriate behaviour" "abusive behaviour" and "offensive behaviour" yet not one of those worthless maggots at admin has been able to shed any light on just what messages are deemed to be abusive, inappropriate or offensive.
The answer to that question is: They're pointing the accusatory finger at http://en.netlog.com/harrylarssonsweden
Your Netlog account has been blocked.
Hello j. (scribble,scribble),
Your Netlog account has been blocked by a Netlog moderator.
The moderator gave this reason:
inappropriate behaviour
His answer to admin...
bluntly i was blocked , though the only warnings i had was one long ago (concerning foto's) and a very vague non-descript one the other day( stating that i , had offended someone,not knowing the offense -and not being informed of it -other than the fact that if was some kind of offense ( personal in nature i am assured though of what i have no clue ) my profile wasnt abusive nor was it attacking
people unless they had attacked me first and generally speakin my profile was well liked by the masses,so now please list the offenses of why i was blocked etc and i dont mean by a generic canned reply that only states that offending people is against netlogs code of conduct ,and scince i am blocked please send the reply to my mail address that is on file as it it apparent that i will not be loggi
logging in to my netlog account ,ermm sorry -ex netlog account
sincerly , j. ( fryboy420247)
yesterday at 13:51 ania_jod Hi,
Your account has been blocked because we received several reports on your abusive behaviour on Netlog.
the first was offensive then inappropriate
now abusive
well thanx for the generic and very vague answer that i explicitly asked not to receive considering that i am usually polite to people when they are ( and anyone on my long friend list can verify this ) and that i dont resort to name calling etc and that most people found my profile refreshing in such a veritude of fakes i still have no choice but to wonder what these "alleged abuses" are and
well thanx for the generic and very vague answer that i explicitly asked not to receive considering that i am usually polite to people when they are ( and anyone on my long friend list can verify this ) and that i dont resort to name calling etc and that most people found my profile refreshing in such a veritude of fakes i still have no choice but to wonder what these "alleged abuses" are and if the reports came from the same person or two with nothing but vengeance for some slight or imagined offense ? i recieved one warning that being offensive was against the "coc" but no mention as to how i was being "offensive" or even what the offense was ,sadly also with no idea how to even identify that offense and take the steps to correct it ,so may i please be informed of what that
offense was so that in the future if i chose to come back to netlog ( and netlog lets me ) that i may not be found offensive with out a reason ? because yes i believe that this was indeed a mistake .
ania_jod has sent me : Your account has been reactivated. Please re-
yesterday at 14:49 ania_jod Hi,
Your account has been reactivated. Please re-review the code of conduct to prevent your account from being blocked again in the future.
Notice they have not told him what the offending messages were or where they were posted. I surmise they've got it in for Fry purely on the basis that he's a friend of mine and because I have expressed my distrust and distaste for http://en.netlog.com/harrylarssonsweden and he's sucked up to admin like a nuclear powered hoover, they love him and will protect him.
The fucking sinister maggot has fashioned his Netlog profile to make it look like he's an employee of Netlog, quoting the terms and conditions etc. etc. etc.
Even http://en.netlog.com/tomek2006 had to warn him to clean up his Netlog profile because it was all 13 and 14 year old girls.
The message posted by http://en.netlog.com/tomek2006 in the Pervert Alert clan has mysteriously disappeared.
Netlog is a shithole.
It is dangerous for kids and now that Admin are taking active steps to stop people like me from bringing the truth to light, I have started taking my own to make sure as many people as possible learn the dirty truth about that site.
Saturday, May 31, 2008
More Netlog insanity.
From the spastics at Netlog HQ:
New feature: Classmates 27 May 2008 - Miss your classmates? Wonder what they are up to? Netlog now offers you the opportunity to find out! On your profile you can specify the schools you went to. To make it easier to find your classmates, you can search for people from particular schools. What's more, FriendFinder allows you to browse through profiles of users you might know, based on your school and graduation year. Check it out!
EVERY SINGLE KID SAFETY WEBSITE ON THE PLANET RECOMMENDS THAT NO KID ANYWHERE LISTS THEIR SCHOOL.
Now with Netlog's new classmate feature, every pervert in Europe can browse for sexual prey by school, then hunt down kids they like by the dozen or by the hundred, depending on how many kids at one school are members of Netlog.
Let's rewrite the blurb for the new classmates feature to reflect reality shall we?
27 May 2008 - Tired of browsing for sex by individual? Looking for new ways to groom that one particular child? Now, Netlog's new Classmates feature makes it easy to get in touch with the friends of your target and increase your chances of an introduction by proxy. With the Classmates feature, you can ingratiate your way into any peer group from the target area of your choice. What's more, FriendFinder allows you to browse through profiles of kids in your age of attraction based on school and year level. Hunting season is open at Netlog.
It's time to raise this as a specific issue with law enforcement agencies in Europe. That site is a disaster and persists with its policy of serving kids up on a platter without regard at all for the privacy and safety of its users.
New feature: Classmates 27 May 2008 - Miss your classmates? Wonder what they are up to? Netlog now offers you the opportunity to find out! On your profile you can specify the schools you went to. To make it easier to find your classmates, you can search for people from particular schools. What's more, FriendFinder allows you to browse through profiles of users you might know, based on your school and graduation year. Check it out!
EVERY SINGLE KID SAFETY WEBSITE ON THE PLANET RECOMMENDS THAT NO KID ANYWHERE LISTS THEIR SCHOOL.
Now with Netlog's new classmate feature, every pervert in Europe can browse for sexual prey by school, then hunt down kids they like by the dozen or by the hundred, depending on how many kids at one school are members of Netlog.
Let's rewrite the blurb for the new classmates feature to reflect reality shall we?
27 May 2008 - Tired of browsing for sex by individual? Looking for new ways to groom that one particular child? Now, Netlog's new Classmates feature makes it easy to get in touch with the friends of your target and increase your chances of an introduction by proxy. With the Classmates feature, you can ingratiate your way into any peer group from the target area of your choice. What's more, FriendFinder allows you to browse through profiles of kids in your age of attraction based on school and year level. Hunting season is open at Netlog.
It's time to raise this as a specific issue with law enforcement agencies in Europe. That site is a disaster and persists with its policy of serving kids up on a platter without regard at all for the privacy and safety of its users.
More Wayne the bullshit artist.
My dual MSN accounts.
I used to have this MSN addy as http://www.en.netlog.com/go/messages/send/receiver=waynethedoctor@hotmail.co.uk, again, the Doctor part is based on Doctor Who.
Not as a medical doctor. I have used it for "public", meaning anyone on Netlog can add me to talk to me on it. At that time, I did have another and private MSN address.
Yes you did, Wayne: And as you described in one chat with a youngster - one address for "fun" chats and one for "clean" chats. Here's an example of an actual conversation Wayne had with an actual 14 yo...
(16:36) Wayne. 3 Days. I: im changing my top. so you want to go on your cam for a few seconds? (16:37) Nick : why?
(16:37) Wayne. 3 Days. I: dunno. to create a converstation
(16:37) Wayne. 3 Days. I: lol. it was a pure random thing
Except we know from what other kids have said, Wayne, that this is a pretty standard thing for you.
You see, if I allow anyone to add me on that address, I can avoid the pests and nuisances by signing it off and talk to my friends on my normal private MSN address.
Most of the rest of us just block the annoying people, Wayne.
But now, the bully kepts blabbing about my private address and public one to encourage fellow bullies to add me on MSN to taunt me.
Actually I do it so everyone knows there are definitely two sides to you - one side that you show to give the impression that you're decent, the other you keep to complete the grooming process.
Well, I did have a bully;s lackeys on my private MSN account (supplied by that original bully) trying to extract information from me.
Seems to me that this bully is commiting a crime by ignoring Data Protection Act. However, that private one is no longer private one now. the MSN address, http://www.en.netlog.com/go/messages/send/receiver=waynethedoctor@hotmail.co.uk is no longer used and availble as my private one has became public, thanks to that bully...however, I don't mind revealing it on here.. my address is talktowayne@gmail.com.
The Data Protection Act doesn't apply to me, knob. It applies to Netlog and is intended to prevent them from making details of members - especially kids - available to marketers and groomers.
I had created a new private one and nobody on Netlog knows about it so this bully's spies CAN'T get in my new private address. So, I have a full control and a peace of mind. So.... don't bother adding http://www.en.netlog.com/go/messages/send/receiver=waynethedoctor@hotmail.co.uk as it is now "dead"
If you want to talk to me on my public msn, it's http://www.en.netlog.com/go/messages/send/receiver=talktowayne@gmail.com. There you go. Not hiding anything apart from my private email address. I am not daft enough to reveal thje addy so the pests can't add me all the time to taunt me.
lulz... it won't take me very long to find out. Haven't you guessed yet? The kids tell me all about you and I don't even have to ask them for the info. They tell me because they know what you are.
I used to have this MSN addy as http://www.en.netlog.com/go/messages/send/receiver=waynethedoctor@hotmail.co.uk, again, the Doctor part is based on Doctor Who.
Not as a medical doctor. I have used it for "public", meaning anyone on Netlog can add me to talk to me on it. At that time, I did have another and private MSN address.
Yes you did, Wayne: And as you described in one chat with a youngster - one address for "fun" chats and one for "clean" chats. Here's an example of an actual conversation Wayne had with an actual 14 yo...
(16:36) Wayne. 3 Days. I: im changing my top. so you want to go on your cam for a few seconds? (16:37) Nick : why?
(16:37) Wayne. 3 Days. I: dunno. to create a converstation
(16:37) Wayne. 3 Days. I: lol. it was a pure random thing
Except we know from what other kids have said, Wayne, that this is a pretty standard thing for you.
You see, if I allow anyone to add me on that address, I can avoid the pests and nuisances by signing it off and talk to my friends on my normal private MSN address.
Most of the rest of us just block the annoying people, Wayne.
But now, the bully kepts blabbing about my private address and public one to encourage fellow bullies to add me on MSN to taunt me.
Actually I do it so everyone knows there are definitely two sides to you - one side that you show to give the impression that you're decent, the other you keep to complete the grooming process.
Well, I did have a bully;s lackeys on my private MSN account (supplied by that original bully) trying to extract information from me.
Seems to me that this bully is commiting a crime by ignoring Data Protection Act. However, that private one is no longer private one now. the MSN address, http://www.en.netlog.com/go/messages/send/receiver=waynethedoctor@hotmail.co.uk is no longer used and availble as my private one has became public, thanks to that bully...however, I don't mind revealing it on here.. my address is talktowayne@gmail.com.
The Data Protection Act doesn't apply to me, knob. It applies to Netlog and is intended to prevent them from making details of members - especially kids - available to marketers and groomers.
I had created a new private one and nobody on Netlog knows about it so this bully's spies CAN'T get in my new private address. So, I have a full control and a peace of mind. So.... don't bother adding http://www.en.netlog.com/go/messages/send/receiver=waynethedoctor@hotmail.co.uk as it is now "dead"
If you want to talk to me on my public msn, it's http://www.en.netlog.com/go/messages/send/receiver=talktowayne@gmail.com. There you go. Not hiding anything apart from my private email address. I am not daft enough to reveal thje addy so the pests can't add me all the time to taunt me.
lulz... it won't take me very long to find out. Haven't you guessed yet? The kids tell me all about you and I don't even have to ask them for the info. They tell me because they know what you are.
Wayne the bullshit artist.
I had a changed the name on my Netlog.
So here it is...
Klown1975
Mintcooker
CaptainBlogger
MrUncrushable
The_Great_Saint
Now The_Great_Writer
I had changed my name a few times. First, I thought I would change to Mintcooker to make the bully can't find me, and I was wrong as I didn't realise that the name can change in people's guestbooks etc.
So..my name was in that bully's guestbook. So, I thought I better create a new profile and carry on as normal.
By that you mean contacting members of Netlog completely at random as long as they were under 20 and more often that not, male.
I've created CaptainBlogger, and then MrUnCrushAble because the bully's lackey said he is going to crush me, so I used that name as a sign of defiance to him.
That's a new one on me. Even I don't know what the hell you're talking about here.
Then a Great Saint for no reasons...just a fun name and now the great writer...not my idea. My contacts told me that they liked my blogs etc, the name is born, however, don't be surprised that the name will change.
With the bully's relentless abuses, I was forced to delete my bebo and myspace.
Even though I never contacted you once on either - I just told you I knew where they were. I'm really REALLY interested to know how you think the truth won't come out.
I did it to protect my friends.
Liar, you had NO friends on your MySpace and you could have made your bebo private.
They all aware about this stalker and a bully, so they understood. I had several pics removed because I saw a fake photobucket account
Again, LIAR. We linked to your own photobucket account containing at least one picture you used on your profiles at Netlog, Bebo and MySpace.
(I never linked any photobuckets and contacted photobuckets to delete any fake accounts) and realised what has been done, so I cannot trust the internet. There's more to come...
I can't wait.
So here it is...
Klown1975
Mintcooker
CaptainBlogger
MrUncrushable
The_Great_Saint
Now The_Great_Writer
I had changed my name a few times. First, I thought I would change to Mintcooker to make the bully can't find me, and I was wrong as I didn't realise that the name can change in people's guestbooks etc.
So..my name was in that bully's guestbook. So, I thought I better create a new profile and carry on as normal.
By that you mean contacting members of Netlog completely at random as long as they were under 20 and more often that not, male.
I've created CaptainBlogger, and then MrUnCrushAble because the bully's lackey said he is going to crush me, so I used that name as a sign of defiance to him.
That's a new one on me. Even I don't know what the hell you're talking about here.
Then a Great Saint for no reasons...just a fun name and now the great writer...not my idea. My contacts told me that they liked my blogs etc, the name is born, however, don't be surprised that the name will change.
With the bully's relentless abuses, I was forced to delete my bebo and myspace.
Even though I never contacted you once on either - I just told you I knew where they were. I'm really REALLY interested to know how you think the truth won't come out.
I did it to protect my friends.
Liar, you had NO friends on your MySpace and you could have made your bebo private.
They all aware about this stalker and a bully, so they understood. I had several pics removed because I saw a fake photobucket account
Again, LIAR. We linked to your own photobucket account containing at least one picture you used on your profiles at Netlog, Bebo and MySpace.
(I never linked any photobuckets and contacted photobuckets to delete any fake accounts) and realised what has been done, so I cannot trust the internet. There's more to come...
I can't wait.
More Netlog Admin bullshit too...
I've been accused of stalking. Stalking whom?
Where is the evidence? Stalking, as you well know, is a criminal offence. If you are serious about this accusation, I want the police involved IMMEDIATELY.
Admin's response:
Hi,
The stalked person is thinking of taking the legal action against you. The evidence is in the Netlog clan, in the lines when you call a certain user a weirdo and a homosexual pedophile.
sincerely,
the Netlog Team
So what, I'm in the process of taking legal action against Netlog. Doesn't mean the site gets shut down because I'm telling you about it.
The so called stalked person won't go to the police because he knows he'll end up in prison if he does. The man is a pedophile and Arnold and his mother will back me up on that and so will several other kids.
Let's see now... reinstate the Ratsback profile and I might - just might - consider not taking legal action against Netlog.
Hi,
I have re-reviewed your case. There might be not enough evidence to consider you stalking other users and we are extremely sorry for such not grounded well enough claim.
However, there is explicit proof that you offended other users of Netlog, and the reason for your being blocked has been adjusted accordingly.
Your profile could be reactivated only upon your strong promise not to breach our Code of Conduct, I'm afraid.
sincerely,
the Netlog Team
And to which profile are you referring when you offer to restore it? All I want from it is the evidence contained within.
Hi,
We are talking about the bigjohn92 profile. As for now, I do not offer anything - to be reviewed for the unblocking, we need to see the user's strong promise to improve, which is not the case here.
Here's the evidence for your offending other users: "homosexual pedophile and weirdo". Does that ring a bell to you? You posted such a message on one of Netlog clans.
sincerely,
the Netlog Team
Oh I don't care about the bigjohn92 profile. There's nothing in that which would be of interest to anyone that hasn't been previously stored elsewhere.
And the police file report number for the profile of its former owner who is now using the profile http://en.netlog.com/bigjohnrox is 19375 filed with Australian Crimestoppers last year.
I know there isn't a snowflake's chance in hell of you contacting Australian police to verify that for yourself because that would be tantamount to admitting liability.
As for the weirdo, I also know nobody at admin is about to look at Harry Larsson's MySpace page either so if you can't be bothered to look at the available evidence unless it appears in a helpdesk ticket like this, then I think it's about time you do face a reality check and have external forces pay you a visit - armed to the eyeballs with warrants.
Have an interesting day.
Where is the evidence? Stalking, as you well know, is a criminal offence. If you are serious about this accusation, I want the police involved IMMEDIATELY.
Admin's response:
Hi,
The stalked person is thinking of taking the legal action against you. The evidence is in the Netlog clan, in the lines when you call a certain user a weirdo and a homosexual pedophile.
sincerely,
the Netlog Team
So what, I'm in the process of taking legal action against Netlog. Doesn't mean the site gets shut down because I'm telling you about it.
The so called stalked person won't go to the police because he knows he'll end up in prison if he does. The man is a pedophile and Arnold and his mother will back me up on that and so will several other kids.
Let's see now... reinstate the Ratsback profile and I might - just might - consider not taking legal action against Netlog.
Hi,
I have re-reviewed your case. There might be not enough evidence to consider you stalking other users and we are extremely sorry for such not grounded well enough claim.
However, there is explicit proof that you offended other users of Netlog, and the reason for your being blocked has been adjusted accordingly.
Your profile could be reactivated only upon your strong promise not to breach our Code of Conduct, I'm afraid.
sincerely,
the Netlog Team
And to which profile are you referring when you offer to restore it? All I want from it is the evidence contained within.
Hi,
We are talking about the bigjohn92 profile. As for now, I do not offer anything - to be reviewed for the unblocking, we need to see the user's strong promise to improve, which is not the case here.
Here's the evidence for your offending other users: "homosexual pedophile and weirdo". Does that ring a bell to you? You posted such a message on one of Netlog clans.
sincerely,
the Netlog Team
Oh I don't care about the bigjohn92 profile. There's nothing in that which would be of interest to anyone that hasn't been previously stored elsewhere.
And the police file report number for the profile of its former owner who is now using the profile http://en.netlog.com/bigjohnrox is 19375 filed with Australian Crimestoppers last year.
I know there isn't a snowflake's chance in hell of you contacting Australian police to verify that for yourself because that would be tantamount to admitting liability.
As for the weirdo, I also know nobody at admin is about to look at Harry Larsson's MySpace page either so if you can't be bothered to look at the available evidence unless it appears in a helpdesk ticket like this, then I think it's about time you do face a reality check and have external forces pay you a visit - armed to the eyeballs with warrants.
Have an interesting day.
Wayne the bullshit artist.
Online Doctor. I have decided to share a secret here. I used to run a site as Online Doctor. Please see www.freewebs.com/onlinedoctor
Bear in mind, I hava had just added new information on it as I am intenting to make it more public. How and why did I create the site?
Pay attention class; I want you to pick the massive hole in this explanation without any help from me.
During 2005, I was talking to a friend called Vicki (on MSN) and we were talking about religion. It was a pretty DEEP chat and she joked that I reminded her of Doctor Who.
(She's the first to say that but not the last). I've put Online Doctor as an MSN name for a joke. Until one day, there were a couple called Marie and Gary (the names has been changed). They lived together in the same house and they both speaks to me via MSN as they lived in Ireland, Dublin I think.
So, Marie has told me that she thinks that Gary is seeing someone else, because he was unusually late from work (and early to work).
Gary left the house a few times without letting Marie know. It was like that for weeks and weeks. So,. Gary spoke to me on MSN and explained why he was like that for a few weeks. He was secretly arrnaging a surprise wedding for Marie.
A what? You mean you can marry someone now without making arrangements with your intended spouse?
He plans to have the church ready, invited the family and friends to attend the wedding without her knowledge, and so on. The entire wedding plans were a big secret. Marie NEVER knew about this at all except for her friends and family.
Gary asked me to keep it as a secret and I promised him that I will help him out. Later on, Marie and I were talking again. I had simply told her that she MUST trust Gary 100% even he seems to be "up to no good". I explained to her that Gary does have a good reason to be sneaky and she need to trust him if she does truly love him.
Marie agreed to trust him. A few weeks later, Gary took Marie to a pre-arranged venue, a church, and to her surprise, everyone were there, all in their best outfits etc. Gary knelt and asked her to marry him.
Obviously, Marie said yes. So..they had a fantastic wedding.
Can anyone spot anything unusual with this?
Gary spoke to me again to say thank you for helping to keep things a secret and making sure Marie doesn't lose trust him in. He said "Wayne, you are Online Doctor". Touched by his comments, I've decided to use that name for a good purpose.
I usually enjoy dealing with people's problems, and I like to remain anonymous, like those superheroes, Superman, Batman, etc...they kept the identity hidden and help people out.
Superheroes, at least, wear underpants Wayne - even if they do wear them on the outside.
So, wanting to do the same thing, I've created Online Doctor website, with a new email address. It wasn't too successful as there wasn't enough exposure or publicity. I can't afford paying for a real website and such. The reason I have decided to go public with Online Doctor because a bully on here is pushing me into "public" eye.
So, I am going to take advantages of that. The Online Doctor is not a secret anymore, and EVERY actions will be revealed on Netlog. If the bully think it's wrong to be modest and remain anonymous. I am NOT interested in praises, grattitudes, compliments. I usually enjoy sorting people's problems and then go away and get on with someone else's problems.
However, I did adverise the site once on Netlog, one of them was on Pervert Alert. I did avoid at first explaining it was me (on guestbooks etc) so, I decided to reveal the identity to Narissa (Owner of Pervert Alert).
Actually Wayne, you quit the clan when you were pressed on the subject and that's when you started whining about being bullied.
I have revealed it to her via private message so she knows. Now, the secret is out, and watch this speace for the Netlog Version of Online Doctor. Yes, everything is public on that site so I can't be accused for "hiding" things. More blogs to come about me...
Part 3: Dual MSN accounts: The fact and reasons
Part 4: My sexuality: No longer private and why.
Part 5: How do I know the members of Netlog.
Netlog, the safest haven for pedophiles on the internet.
Hi, I am sick and tired of you posting those kind of blogs. If you have an explicit proof that somebody is abusing underage, please let me know. Otherwise I will not hesitate to block you permanently.
I know that you like to run those campaigns on your profile, they attract attention and everything. In this respect, however, I cannot agree on that. I am not saying that this guy is innocent.
Nevertheless you just cannot go on like this. Please show me EXPLICIT evidence and I will get him blocked.
TomekMy response to Tomek....
Ok, JCBoilvr... convicted pedophile by the name of John Curry. He's been
reported before and he's still here. You can find his rap sheet on the Florida
Sex Offender Regsitry. http://en.netlog.com/jcboilvrhttp://de.netlog.com/thorsten_in_fr I warned you about this
guy back in January - yet he's still here. My most recent blog has nothing
whatsoever to do with Wayne Adams, Tomasz, I'm telling you that you do not have
control over your site.
Non-English clans and profiles proliferate here
and you as clans manager are manifestly incapable of enforcing the Code of
Conduct of this website. How on earth would you propose to prove me wrong on
that?
The link to the search term "Teen" in the video section of this
website is littered with pornography. Personally I couldn't care less about it
but unless management cleans things up, I will go to the press - and I will do
it BECAUSE profiles of those who are pursuing kids are not dealt with in any
sort of satisfactory manner.
Sam Smith is a prime case in point. As for
Wayne Adams, I have what you describe as "hearsay" evidence from kids who've
told me what he's like, what he does - all of it. I managed to track down all of
his old profile names so if you google the following terms, you'll see
everything he's done since he's been here - but you have to look at the cached
pages.
klown1975
mintcooker
mruncrushable
religionnutter1975
captainblogger
the_great_saint
the_great_writer
For me,
mruncrushable yielded the best results. When I see kids and adults comment that
they don't know how to report abuse, how do you propose to get EXPLICIT
evidence?
All you're going to get is hearsay. Look at Lorenz's guestbook
for the comments by rubyrednics... is that hearsay as well? Add up the hearsay
and circumstantial evidence and use some commonsense and take advantage of the
Terms and Conditions which clearly state accounts can be blocked without warning
or explanation and clean the predators out of your website.
It's too
late to think of attempting to permanently block me, Tomasz. For starters, I'll
get around it in no time flat using any one of half a dozen means at my
disposal. You know it and I know it.
Secondly, more people are going to
be on your case asking the very same questions if my issues are not dealt with.
All you'll achieve by blocking me is the destruction of evidence within this
profile.So they've blocked all of my profiles there now - the ones they're aware of that is - they still don't know about a few of the ones I still have - and CEOP, bless their cotton socks, have just published their expectations of the responsibilities of social networking sites.
Because Netlog is also in breach of U.S. law, I'm also going to ask some of my American friends to report the site to U.S. Authorities.
Thursday, May 29, 2008
The continuing war with Netlog.
I had my account at Netlog blocked and the clans manager sent me the following email:
The correspondence has been flying thick and fast between me and admin because of what's been happening there. It was because of what was going on at Netlog that I made The Daily Rat website which I had to stop doing because some twats were warning the filth we were going after.
http://chatrat.977mb.com is the url.
One they forgot to warn was Darryl Rowe from Adelaide who was arrested in February and has his computer confiscated.
Anyway, the clans manager had this to say in a locked clan at Netlog...
It is not of a private nature at all and the person in question would be only too pleased to have the reasons published for everyone to see. It is the opinion of the person in question that it is Netlog admin who would prefer to have the whole issue kept quiet.
Actually, this person was acting like the CoC does not apply to the administration of this site and numerous examples were posted to confirm that hypothesis. To refresh the memories of those who may be reading this...
From the CoC:
This is the English version of Netlog. To enable moderation, you can post blogs, videos, comments... in English only.
http://en.netlog.com/go/explore/clans/view=popu...-
Furthermore the Terms and Conditions of this website have this to say about membership here:
"Netlog is at liberty to cancel your membership at any time, for any reason and without previous warning."
You, however, keep LYING to us by saying you need proof before you can take any action. Your own terms and conditions CLEARLY STATE OTHERWISE.
Spend just 3 minutes looking through this clan and see if you can justify to the kids here why you blocked Rat for going after someone you yourself consider has no credibility yet all these real criminals are allowed to carry on as if nobody in admin cares how many kids the creeps try to get on webcam.
The following response was posted this morning:
I'm making just one point - and that point is you do NOT have control of the site.
Say what you like about me being inconsistent, abusive or whatever - it doesn't change the fact that you do not have any control over this site. The proof we in this clan offer is not sufficient proof for you. We obviously have different standards.
The further proof I show in support of my assertion that you do not have control of this site is discounted on the base of it not being related to the safety of kids.
I reiterate: You do NOT have control of this site and THAT makes it intrinsically unsafe for kids. Your attitude makes it worse. You are aware you are in breach of U.S. law right now aren't you. That has ramifications for Netlog.
And one more thing: Just exactly what sort of dialogue would you be thinking of entertaining with the sorts of people we name here in this clan?
There is a whole lot more that I've thrown at this person and as I get time, I'll post it.
Hello Paul Ritchie,
Your Netlog account has been blocked by a Netlog moderator.
The moderator gave this reason:
After numerous incidents and reports from other Netlog users, we have decided that there is a substantial number of evidence that has led us to the conclusion that your account requires blocking. Apart from the major cases of disturbing the public order on the site your inappropriate conduct also includes: -running (in the past) a fake profile of an underage boy the pictures on that profile come from unknown source and they definitely resemble numerous pictures so often reported by yourself -slanderous behaviour towards numerous users of Netlog, -foul language, -publishing false accusations based on assumptions rather than credible evidence -lack of willingness to cooperate with the admin
The correspondence has been flying thick and fast between me and admin because of what's been happening there. It was because of what was going on at Netlog that I made The Daily Rat website which I had to stop doing because some twats were warning the filth we were going after.
http://chatrat.977mb.com is the url.
One they forgot to warn was Darryl Rowe from Adelaide who was arrested in February and has his computer confiscated.
Anyway, the clans manager had this to say in a locked clan at Netlog...
You know that I do not post in this clan, however I feel that you guys should know what I think about some of the issues that have been raised in other blog messages in PA.To which I responded with:
Please excuse me writing a separate blog message. I just want to make it very clear to everybody.
All users, who ever took the chance to talk to me, know that I would never use any credentials given to me to log in for some other users. Please do not say that I have the password to any account if you sent it to me totally unprompted. I did not, do not and will not log in for any other users and any accounts other than Tomek2006.
As for the blocking of the account of "Ratsback". I do not want to publish the whole reasoning here as it is of private nature and I am not sure whether the person in question would like everybody to read it or not. I believe that it was well-reasoned and certainly the account had not been blocked for nothing. This person has been acting like the CoC does not apply to him. It might be easier to fight abuse using dirty tricks but this makes it really difficult to tell one apart from a real abuser.
Another important thing I would like everybody to know is that:
I am always happy to talk to you and if you send me a pm there is a big chance that I will respond. Nevertheless, I receive hundreds of messages every day and sending me pms with regard to urgent and abuse-attached issues is not the best way to solve the problem. All of you who ever tried to cooperate with the admin team know that writing the Helpdesk should get you a prompt and helpful response.
I hope that this sheds some light on the whole issue.
As for the blocking of the account of "Ratsback". I do not want to publish the whole reasoning here as it is of private nature and I am not sure whether the person in question would like everybody to read it or not.
It is not of a private nature at all and the person in question would be only too pleased to have the reasons published for everyone to see. It is the opinion of the person in question that it is Netlog admin who would prefer to have the whole issue kept quiet.
This person has been acting like the CoC does not apply to him. It might be easier to fight abuse using dirty tricks but this makes it really difficult to tell one apart from a real abuser.
Actually, this person was acting like the CoC does not apply to the administration of this site and numerous examples were posted to confirm that hypothesis. To refresh the memories of those who may be reading this...
From the CoC:
This is the English version of Netlog. To enable moderation, you can post blogs, videos, comments... in English only.
http://en.netlog.com/go/explore/clans/view=popu...-
Furthermore the Terms and Conditions of this website have this to say about membership here:
"Netlog is at liberty to cancel your membership at any time, for any reason and without previous warning."
You, however, keep LYING to us by saying you need proof before you can take any action. Your own terms and conditions CLEARLY STATE OTHERWISE.
Spend just 3 minutes looking through this clan and see if you can justify to the kids here why you blocked Rat for going after someone you yourself consider has no credibility yet all these real criminals are allowed to carry on as if nobody in admin cares how many kids the creeps try to get on webcam.
The following response was posted this morning:
My response to this "shoot the messenger" mentality:
1. Let's not be hypocritical. Go ahead and publish the e-mail you received when I blocked your account under the name Ratsback. I just have ;) I strongly believe that it has strong reasoning and it is just. I don't.
2. Again due to the lack of reasonable arguments you try to use foreign clans. The security of children and clans in languages other than English are two separate issues on Netlog. Show me a clan that is against the CoC that has been reported and was not blocked. If you are going to act like this it is way more destructive than constructive.
3.Indeed such a point exists in the TOS of Netlog. I could possibly enforce this rule on your account. Nevertheless we always try to look for dialog and mutual understanding. When it comes to the parts where you do good you act like you are the most caring person on Netlog, however when it comes to the parts where you act just like a regular abuser, running fake accounts of children, posting slanderous accusations etc..... you simply say that you never said you were nice. Is this consistent?
I am on good terms with so many users who want to fight abuse. I think this is sad that finding a mutual understanding with you seems impossible. I do not think that I am the one to blame for that though.
I think that what I wrote here is a hard nut. Please do not respond before thinking about it seriously. I will not go into a regular argument anyways.
I'm making just one point - and that point is you do NOT have control of the site.
Say what you like about me being inconsistent, abusive or whatever - it doesn't change the fact that you do not have any control over this site. The proof we in this clan offer is not sufficient proof for you. We obviously have different standards.
The further proof I show in support of my assertion that you do not have control of this site is discounted on the base of it not being related to the safety of kids.
I reiterate: You do NOT have control of this site and THAT makes it intrinsically unsafe for kids. Your attitude makes it worse. You are aware you are in breach of U.S. law right now aren't you. That has ramifications for Netlog.
And one more thing: Just exactly what sort of dialogue would you be thinking of entertaining with the sorts of people we name here in this clan?
There is a whole lot more that I've thrown at this person and as I get time, I'll post it.
Sunday, April 13, 2008
The_Great_Saint:
I wasn't interested in your profile. I was told about those blogs you have put up about me. Did you know that some members of PA are my friends and checks my profile and logs regularly?
Do I care?
- The_Great_Saint:
I encouraged them to take a look. They has testified that there is nothing wrong with me.
Testified? Where? Which court? Did you show them your chatlogs from instant messenger? I bet you didn't. Conspiracy to commit assault is a criminal offence - and it's your chatlog so you can't deny it. Conspiracy to commit assault against a 16 year old... how do you justify that?
- The_Great_Saint:
I was checking your blogs and gave the links to the Netlog Admin as evidence of slander.
What slander? You're a liar, and all the evidence I have - though it doesn't amount to what Admin calls "proof" points quite clearly to the fact you're a pedophile. I'm presently trawling through more than 680 messages and 5 months of chatlogs to compile a sizeable dossier of activity you wouldn't want your Netlog friends to know about.
- The_Great_Saint:
The Admin had written to me if you had evidence then your blogs wouldn't be removed. Thank you for removing the false blogs about me.
Don't thank me, I removed them under duress. And when I get the time to provide proof sufficient to Admin's requirements, those blogs will be reposted. Thank you for playing.
- The_Great_Saint:
Of course I had you blacklisted to prevent you from twisting the truth up.
Truth? Do you know the meaning of the word? You told one 14yo that you don't talk to kids that age. You spoken to Arnold lately? You remember, the 13yo you considered the coolest person you'd met in all of 2007...
- The_Great_Saint:
I wasn't interested in talking to you or making a fuss with you.
I bet you weren't. I'd pwn you to oblivion and you know it.
- The_Great_Saint:
I know you takes a delight in reaction and I didn't even bother giving you a reaction,
Not to my face, but chatlogs are a bastard aren't they - and guess what - I have them. You wouldn't take me on personally so you grizzled and griped to teenagers you thought were on your side and guess what, some them hate you more than do I. 5 months worth of them to be exact. (They'd be the ones I'm going through now for information they've given me about you and others.)
- The_Great_Saint:
and you had to get my friends attention to read your blogs.
Erm, not quite. I googled your old profile names and followed half a dozen messages you'd left on the guestbooks and pictures of teenager after teenager after teenager... see, that's one of the ways I found out that you don't just randomly search profiles. Nobody was over 18. You're 33. If it looks like a turd and smells like a turd, chances are, it's a turd. Change your profile name? The_Great_Turd?
- The_Great_Saint:
Guess what? They decided to stand up for me in their own free will. I didnt even ask them what to do.
Well actually you did. I have that chatlog as well. Jonas might not have but that's ok, I admire the fact he stood up for someone he thinks is a mate. Does he know about your dual messenger regime? Does he know about your webcam requests of 13 and 14 year olds? I bet he doesn't.
- The_Great_Saint:
They wanted to show support. Now, please remove EVERYTHING you has said, written, or anything like into it, I will simply report you. You will lose your account. JUST ONE WORD ABOUT ME, MY NAME, OR ANYTHING. it is reported.
Shit?
- The_Great_Saint:
Simple as that. Like or not. Don't even be tempted to get clever with me or find a way to answer back. It is proven it is a slander and that's is that.
If it's a proven slander, then take legal action against me. I DARE YOU, Oscar Wilde.
I DOUBLE DARE YOU.
WITH SPRINKLES ON TOP.
- The_Great_Saint:
So, remove everything from me, and if you EVER think about using your friends or "other contacts" to accuse me, think again, it WILL be you and Netlog Admin already knows that.
half a mo.. the words are English but I'll be buggered if I can make head or tail of this.
- The_Great_Saint:
I gave them full report and history about you. Of course some of PA members trusted you, but now they're thinking again and helped me to report you.
Hmmm.. I doubt it. See, I'm still a member there and you're not. How's that work?
- The_Great_Saint:
Remember, not a single word against me again. I am deleting my account. If I catch a small whiff coming from you on netlog, you're blocked. Like it or not. Yes, I have several friends on netlog and they are not even on my friends list and they are keeping an eye on you now. One more move. It's over for you.
Oh dear god I'm shaking in my boots. Do you know what happens to people who get their Netlog accounts blocked? They make new ones within 3 minutes.
Understand this, you retard, for as long as you keep searching the profiles here for local teenage boys to contact, I am going to know about it. You want me off your case, then you quit being a sleezy git, start being honest and up front about your sexuality and stop telling the kids with whom they can and cannot be friends.
I wasn't interested in your profile. I was told about those blogs you have put up about me. Did you know that some members of PA are my friends and checks my profile and logs regularly?
Do I care?
- The_Great_Saint:
I encouraged them to take a look. They has testified that there is nothing wrong with me.
Testified? Where? Which court? Did you show them your chatlogs from instant messenger? I bet you didn't. Conspiracy to commit assault is a criminal offence - and it's your chatlog so you can't deny it. Conspiracy to commit assault against a 16 year old... how do you justify that?
- The_Great_Saint:
I was checking your blogs and gave the links to the Netlog Admin as evidence of slander.
What slander? You're a liar, and all the evidence I have - though it doesn't amount to what Admin calls "proof" points quite clearly to the fact you're a pedophile. I'm presently trawling through more than 680 messages and 5 months of chatlogs to compile a sizeable dossier of activity you wouldn't want your Netlog friends to know about.
- The_Great_Saint:
The Admin had written to me if you had evidence then your blogs wouldn't be removed. Thank you for removing the false blogs about me.
Don't thank me, I removed them under duress. And when I get the time to provide proof sufficient to Admin's requirements, those blogs will be reposted. Thank you for playing.
- The_Great_Saint:
Of course I had you blacklisted to prevent you from twisting the truth up.
Truth? Do you know the meaning of the word? You told one 14yo that you don't talk to kids that age. You spoken to Arnold lately? You remember, the 13yo you considered the coolest person you'd met in all of 2007...
- The_Great_Saint:
I wasn't interested in talking to you or making a fuss with you.
I bet you weren't. I'd pwn you to oblivion and you know it.
- The_Great_Saint:
I know you takes a delight in reaction and I didn't even bother giving you a reaction,
Not to my face, but chatlogs are a bastard aren't they - and guess what - I have them. You wouldn't take me on personally so you grizzled and griped to teenagers you thought were on your side and guess what, some them hate you more than do I. 5 months worth of them to be exact. (They'd be the ones I'm going through now for information they've given me about you and others.)
- The_Great_Saint:
and you had to get my friends attention to read your blogs.
Erm, not quite. I googled your old profile names and followed half a dozen messages you'd left on the guestbooks and pictures of teenager after teenager after teenager... see, that's one of the ways I found out that you don't just randomly search profiles. Nobody was over 18. You're 33. If it looks like a turd and smells like a turd, chances are, it's a turd. Change your profile name? The_Great_Turd?
- The_Great_Saint:
Guess what? They decided to stand up for me in their own free will. I didnt even ask them what to do.
Well actually you did. I have that chatlog as well. Jonas might not have but that's ok, I admire the fact he stood up for someone he thinks is a mate. Does he know about your dual messenger regime? Does he know about your webcam requests of 13 and 14 year olds? I bet he doesn't.
- The_Great_Saint:
They wanted to show support. Now, please remove EVERYTHING you has said, written, or anything like into it, I will simply report you. You will lose your account. JUST ONE WORD ABOUT ME, MY NAME, OR ANYTHING. it is reported.
Shit?
- The_Great_Saint:
Simple as that. Like or not. Don't even be tempted to get clever with me or find a way to answer back. It is proven it is a slander and that's is that.
If it's a proven slander, then take legal action against me. I DARE YOU, Oscar Wilde.
I DOUBLE DARE YOU.
WITH SPRINKLES ON TOP.
- The_Great_Saint:
So, remove everything from me, and if you EVER think about using your friends or "other contacts" to accuse me, think again, it WILL be you and Netlog Admin already knows that.
half a mo.. the words are English but I'll be buggered if I can make head or tail of this.
- The_Great_Saint:
I gave them full report and history about you. Of course some of PA members trusted you, but now they're thinking again and helped me to report you.
Hmmm.. I doubt it. See, I'm still a member there and you're not. How's that work?
- The_Great_Saint:
Remember, not a single word against me again. I am deleting my account. If I catch a small whiff coming from you on netlog, you're blocked. Like it or not. Yes, I have several friends on netlog and they are not even on my friends list and they are keeping an eye on you now. One more move. It's over for you.
Oh dear god I'm shaking in my boots. Do you know what happens to people who get their Netlog accounts blocked? They make new ones within 3 minutes.
Understand this, you retard, for as long as you keep searching the profiles here for local teenage boys to contact, I am going to know about it. You want me off your case, then you quit being a sleezy git, start being honest and up front about your sexuality and stop telling the kids with whom they can and cannot be friends.
Dear Wayne,
Yesterday my account was blocked by Admin and I had to remove two blog posts accusing a certain individual of being a pedophile in order to get my account back.
They called it "slander".
It's only slander if what you say is not true. Just consult any biography of Oscar Wilde.
I'm just BEGGING for one of those slimy two-faced cowards to get me into court somewhere.
Still staggers the imagination that slander is considered so serious an offence against the code of conduct it warrants blocking but the solicitation of 13 and 14 year olds for sex does not warrant any action at all.
Since when does a reputation on a social networking site count for more than the health and safety of a child? My reputation is lower than shark shit; I'm a trouble maker and a vigilante. Does it bug me at all?
Dream on.
The boast that only 1 - 3% of pictures considered too taboo to post, thereby proving how up to the job admin is of safeguarding the public sensibilities also looks abjectly ridiculous in light of the fact that even scumbags convicted of sex offences against children and people identifying themselves as pedophiles can lurk there and solicit kids with impugnity, largely because kids don't know how to report abuse. It comes down to more than just clicking an obscure link - which doesn't even work on one's own profile.
A----y...
Stuff happened in the last few days for which I wasn't adequately prepared. It was all good stuff though; I met in person, after 2 years' corresponding on the internet, the only woman who's managed to understand me properly since the death of my brother; one of my fellow pedohunters, a man of whom I am in absolute awe, renewed the acquaintance last Friday and put me in touch with another chap dedicated to hunting and arresting perverts who has massive legal and financial backing to do what he does; and the crew all turned up with new bits and pieces to get other stuff done in the quest of hunting creeps and perverts.
It's like it's all falling into place all at the same time.
And one poncy friggin git gets his undies in a bind and complains that I've slandered him and I have to justify myself for exposing the crump's lies and telling the truth about him.
Well Jesus Christ almighty, if I'm that bloody bad, how about you just piss off back to bebo and solicit kids there, you fat maggot bastard. Why do you need two sites to hunt for teenage boys. I know where the bebo account is as well, spoil what I'm doing in one site and I'll trash that account there for you as well. Get the hint, dickhead; as long as you hunt for kids half your age, I'm going to hunt you wherever you are.
Anonymous does not forget. Anonymous does not forgive.
STOP SEARCHING FOR NEW KIDS TO CONTACT. WE ALL KNOW YOU DO IT, WE ALL KNOW YOU LIE ABOUT WHY YOU'RE CONTACTING THEM, AND EVEN THAT YOU DO CONTACT KIDS.
JUST STOP DOING IT. GOT IT?
They called it "slander".
It's only slander if what you say is not true. Just consult any biography of Oscar Wilde.
I'm just BEGGING for one of those slimy two-faced cowards to get me into court somewhere.
Still staggers the imagination that slander is considered so serious an offence against the code of conduct it warrants blocking but the solicitation of 13 and 14 year olds for sex does not warrant any action at all.
Since when does a reputation on a social networking site count for more than the health and safety of a child? My reputation is lower than shark shit; I'm a trouble maker and a vigilante. Does it bug me at all?
Dream on.
The boast that only 1 - 3% of pictures considered too taboo to post, thereby proving how up to the job admin is of safeguarding the public sensibilities also looks abjectly ridiculous in light of the fact that even scumbags convicted of sex offences against children and people identifying themselves as pedophiles can lurk there and solicit kids with impugnity, largely because kids don't know how to report abuse. It comes down to more than just clicking an obscure link - which doesn't even work on one's own profile.
A----y...
Stuff happened in the last few days for which I wasn't adequately prepared. It was all good stuff though; I met in person, after 2 years' corresponding on the internet, the only woman who's managed to understand me properly since the death of my brother; one of my fellow pedohunters, a man of whom I am in absolute awe, renewed the acquaintance last Friday and put me in touch with another chap dedicated to hunting and arresting perverts who has massive legal and financial backing to do what he does; and the crew all turned up with new bits and pieces to get other stuff done in the quest of hunting creeps and perverts.
It's like it's all falling into place all at the same time.
And one poncy friggin git gets his undies in a bind and complains that I've slandered him and I have to justify myself for exposing the crump's lies and telling the truth about him.
Well Jesus Christ almighty, if I'm that bloody bad, how about you just piss off back to bebo and solicit kids there, you fat maggot bastard. Why do you need two sites to hunt for teenage boys. I know where the bebo account is as well, spoil what I'm doing in one site and I'll trash that account there for you as well. Get the hint, dickhead; as long as you hunt for kids half your age, I'm going to hunt you wherever you are.
Anonymous does not forget. Anonymous does not forgive.
STOP SEARCHING FOR NEW KIDS TO CONTACT. WE ALL KNOW YOU DO IT, WE ALL KNOW YOU LIE ABOUT WHY YOU'RE CONTACTING THEM, AND EVEN THAT YOU DO CONTACT KIDS.
JUST STOP DOING IT. GOT IT?
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